Their most important person is also the only one who would be able to control it if something went wrong. We’re not sure what went wrong here, yet, but if it was beyond Baelin’s prowess, no one would be able to handle it.
Teleportation is.. Hard to get right. Every single particle in the body is a variable that you don’t create yourself, and instead must gain control of. While the creation of objects is also complex, at least with that you have full control of each particle from the start, which makes it much easier to keep track of everything. Teleportation has to be able to detect everything, keep track of everything, and when disconnecting it must keep everything in as stable of a state as it was when it started.
If you miss some particles, things can suddenly go boom. If your model for how matter interacts or even ‘is’ (underestimating how many dimensions matter occupies, for example), things can suddenly go boom. If some particles are teleported before others (some fuzziness on this, as some particles can be teleported before/after others, but the delay has to be VERY short and depends massively on the type of object being teleported), things can suddenly go boom.
There are just so many different ways it can go wrong that I’m surprised Vitrin was willing to test it on himself. Hadalen’s white hole core was tested by making dildos and stuff, not fully functioning biological people (though Fen proved that to be technically possible quite recently~) – and every particle was tracked and controlled from start to finish each time.
Still. I feel really bad for everyone involved here. Hadalen is feeling sad, probably guilty over his past… And now he’s about to witness his old lover get… Well, there are a few possible things that could happen. But most likely is simply him vanishing, the machine breaking/exploding, and the body never being found. Or being scattered across the distance from there to the core itself.
Though Alfred had said, “I can’t beat him this time” in one of the recordings. Does he survive somehow, and think Alfred sabotaged his core?
So instead of your particles being dispersed and hopefully reassembled in a non-cancer forming pattern on the other side, you’re instead forced out of reality and flung at stupefying speeds to hopefully the proper set of coordinates that isn’t six inches too low or inside a wall or other living being… And also hopefully not picking anything up along the way…
As fascinating as it is, warp theory is terrifying…
for some reason, this reminds me of the lore for “supreme commander”. There’s a reason why the first test in lore was a single cesium atom, transported 10 feet, in a laboratory. Followed 7 years later, by 1 milligram of iron, to the moon.
Though my statement still stands, I think. Basically, unless there’s a physical conveyor belt (or any other sort of system that propels you through a wormhole the same way it’d propel you through physical space) that moves you within a hyperspatially constructed space (such as said wormhole), you have to be able to track every single particle in order to ensure all of them are moved in, out, and/or around local space-time properly.
Still, all this is just my musings about your comic, particularly how your decision for what worked, and what didn’t work, makes complete sense to me. I like when fiction doesn’t even have to try to go into any technical details, because I can try filling them in on my own – it’s something I have fun doing :3
In this case, it’s a little more than that though. You’re doing a lot of things in a way that I personally would have also done them. This just makes me love the comic even more, since I’m curious where you plan to go from here with these sorts of ideas. I’ve been musing about the idea of dimensional engineering since gradeschool, and it’s rare to see anything remotely resembling it (at least to the degree that I’ve imagined it) pop up anywhere.
If I had any artistic talent I’d make a comic myself. If I had a better attention span I’d write stories. But as it is, the closest I’ve gotten to seeing a fleshed out and finalized version of anything I’ve thought about is a few works of fiction here and there that others have created… And this comic is one of them.
Can’t figure out how to edit my post, but I wanted to clarify that I still do like when works of fiction do explain the technical details, as I like it when I can compare what I thought of with what the authors/creators decided. I don’t criticize for things not lining up with expectations, either; if the authors had the same thoughts I did, then that’s awesome and cool! If they had a different take entirely, that’s also awesome and cool!
The only time I might criticize is if it’s just sloppily written and makes no sense whatsoever. And I mean like, on the level of “Create a GUI in Visual Basic to track the killer’s IP address” type of lazy, sloppy writing, where techy-sounding words are just thrown out there with no context or regard for what any of those words mean.
I see someone in this universe never watched The Fly. Meat drives those teleporters crazy. I mean the last one turned the creature inside-out. . . before exploding!
The Fly, Event Horizon, half a dozen of Star Trek episodes, et cetera, et cetera; never played Doom – not to mention innumerable fiction on the matter of assorted hardness, from true sci-fi to fantasy poems.
But there’s the catch, you see – the future depicted here is bright and quite hopeful; I deem there’s no fear of science in thouse people. Such futures are seldomly described in modern media – for they bear no profit indeed.
But I digress. What crucial here, is the mindset of such creatures: they simply won’t listen to inane archaic doomsaying – just as you, I presume, won’t listen to dire warnings about travelling in speeding carriage despite common knowledge being that speed greater than 30 miles per hour will surely drive any daring soul quite mad.
I dare say good Sir! 30 miles per hours is quite mad indeed! My blood BOILS at the thought of going above 25! I shall keep to my horseless carriage at a responsibly swift speed of 20 miles per hour. indeed a speed that would have made Pheidippides blush and catch his breath. 😉
Well I would like to have a space suit on it it would teleport me “anywhere” within ranger of an already in orbit thingymobob and I think I’m first to mission accomplished?
On the first point – you can simply create a hermetically sealed bubble with you inside.
Which brings us to the second point, on which I know no answer – if one will create some amount of oxigen with the core, will it be suitable for breathing?
Well, I don’t think you can recreate the process of how air is formed so any air you capture would be all you have. All I can say is if you are gonna make a bubble of air, make sure you take a forest with you.
These folks right here have the advantage of being the most hyperintelligent creatures to ever graze the fabric of this reality, so I’m sure they could visualize the building blocks of basic oxygen :p
Actually u wouldn’t need a forest if it was just you because at least two other plants (of the right size) could keep you with a substantial amount of oxygen
This is why you NEVER use yourself as the first demonstration subject!
Ok … What did I miss
So alfred is going to save his love I am guessing. That is going to be cute.
*synth chainsaw begins to play*
In any case I hope he dosent die he’s cute
“Vitrin (The concept), a form of magic power thought to be so dangerous that anyone who has attempted to access it have vanished.”
…The cores are still up there, and working, after, what, 100,000 years?
If only my smartphone was that reliable…
More like about a million years.. :p
What was their highest successful test that they were willing to do a live trial on literally their most important person?
Their most important person is also the only one who would be able to control it if something went wrong. We’re not sure what went wrong here, yet, but if it was beyond Baelin’s prowess, no one would be able to handle it.
Teleportation is.. Hard to get right. Every single particle in the body is a variable that you don’t create yourself, and instead must gain control of. While the creation of objects is also complex, at least with that you have full control of each particle from the start, which makes it much easier to keep track of everything. Teleportation has to be able to detect everything, keep track of everything, and when disconnecting it must keep everything in as stable of a state as it was when it started.
If you miss some particles, things can suddenly go boom. If your model for how matter interacts or even ‘is’ (underestimating how many dimensions matter occupies, for example), things can suddenly go boom. If some particles are teleported before others (some fuzziness on this, as some particles can be teleported before/after others, but the delay has to be VERY short and depends massively on the type of object being teleported), things can suddenly go boom.
There are just so many different ways it can go wrong that I’m surprised Vitrin was willing to test it on himself. Hadalen’s white hole core was tested by making dildos and stuff, not fully functioning biological people (though Fen proved that to be technically possible quite recently~) – and every particle was tracked and controlled from start to finish each time.
Still. I feel really bad for everyone involved here. Hadalen is feeling sad, probably guilty over his past… And now he’s about to witness his old lover get… Well, there are a few possible things that could happen. But most likely is simply him vanishing, the machine breaking/exploding, and the body never being found. Or being scattered across the distance from there to the core itself.
Though Alfred had said, “I can’t beat him this time” in one of the recordings. Does he survive somehow, and think Alfred sabotaged his core?
Think of it more like.. Personalized warp technology. :p
So instead of your particles being dispersed and hopefully reassembled in a non-cancer forming pattern on the other side, you’re instead forced out of reality and flung at stupefying speeds to hopefully the proper set of coordinates that isn’t six inches too low or inside a wall or other living being… And also hopefully not picking anything up along the way…
As fascinating as it is, warp theory is terrifying…
Pretty much, yeah 😀
for some reason, this reminds me of the lore for “supreme commander”. There’s a reason why the first test in lore was a single cesium atom, transported 10 feet, in a laboratory. Followed 7 years later, by 1 milligram of iron, to the moon.
That makes sense :3
Though my statement still stands, I think. Basically, unless there’s a physical conveyor belt (or any other sort of system that propels you through a wormhole the same way it’d propel you through physical space) that moves you within a hyperspatially constructed space (such as said wormhole), you have to be able to track every single particle in order to ensure all of them are moved in, out, and/or around local space-time properly.
Still, all this is just my musings about your comic, particularly how your decision for what worked, and what didn’t work, makes complete sense to me. I like when fiction doesn’t even have to try to go into any technical details, because I can try filling them in on my own – it’s something I have fun doing :3
In this case, it’s a little more than that though. You’re doing a lot of things in a way that I personally would have also done them. This just makes me love the comic even more, since I’m curious where you plan to go from here with these sorts of ideas. I’ve been musing about the idea of dimensional engineering since gradeschool, and it’s rare to see anything remotely resembling it (at least to the degree that I’ve imagined it) pop up anywhere.
If I had any artistic talent I’d make a comic myself. If I had a better attention span I’d write stories. But as it is, the closest I’ve gotten to seeing a fleshed out and finalized version of anything I’ve thought about is a few works of fiction here and there that others have created… And this comic is one of them.
Can’t figure out how to edit my post, but I wanted to clarify that I still do like when works of fiction do explain the technical details, as I like it when I can compare what I thought of with what the authors/creators decided. I don’t criticize for things not lining up with expectations, either; if the authors had the same thoughts I did, then that’s awesome and cool! If they had a different take entirely, that’s also awesome and cool!
The only time I might criticize is if it’s just sloppily written and makes no sense whatsoever. And I mean like, on the level of “Create a GUI in Visual Basic to track the killer’s IP address” type of lazy, sloppy writing, where techy-sounding words are just thrown out there with no context or regard for what any of those words mean.
ded girly minx… or maybe on other dimention gettin butt fuck
I see someone in this universe never watched The Fly. Meat drives those teleporters crazy. I mean the last one turned the creature inside-out. . . before exploding!
The Fly, Event Horizon, half a dozen of Star Trek episodes, et cetera, et cetera; never played Doom – not to mention innumerable fiction on the matter of assorted hardness, from true sci-fi to fantasy poems.
But there’s the catch, you see – the future depicted here is bright and quite hopeful; I deem there’s no fear of science in thouse people. Such futures are seldomly described in modern media – for they bear no profit indeed.
But I digress. What crucial here, is the mindset of such creatures: they simply won’t listen to inane archaic doomsaying – just as you, I presume, won’t listen to dire warnings about travelling in speeding carriage despite common knowledge being that speed greater than 30 miles per hour will surely drive any daring soul quite mad.
I dare say good Sir! 30 miles per hours is quite mad indeed! My blood BOILS at the thought of going above 25! I shall keep to my horseless carriage at a responsibly swift speed of 20 miles per hour. indeed a speed that would have made Pheidippides blush and catch his breath. 😉
Well I would like to have a space suit on it it would teleport me “anywhere” within ranger of an already in orbit thingymobob and I think I’m first to mission accomplished?
Well, if you would end somewhere in space in range of an orbital core, you can always use the core itself to create a suit to your needs or likings.
You would have to know every part and function of the suit for it to work and it would still need oxygen in the tanks.
On the first point – you can simply create a hermetically sealed bubble with you inside.
Which brings us to the second point, on which I know no answer – if one will create some amount of oxigen with the core, will it be suitable for breathing?
Yeah I’m not the brightest fluff in the bunch so I sorta didn’t understand anything more than bubble
Well, I don’t think you can recreate the process of how air is formed so any air you capture would be all you have. All I can say is if you are gonna make a bubble of air, make sure you take a forest with you.
These folks right here have the advantage of being the most hyperintelligent creatures to ever graze the fabric of this reality, so I’m sure they could visualize the building blocks of basic oxygen :p
But they would need a system to scrub the air and replace the oxygen as well. That would be a lot of moving parts to keep focused on at once no?
Well no, just keep making more oxygen and vent the co2 :p
Actually u wouldn’t need a forest if it was just you because at least two other plants (of the right size) could keep you with a substantial amount of oxygen
And I realized I came back a little late on that part sorry continues on :3